10/31/2006

Kerry Attacks Chicken Hawks



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"I'm sick and tired of these despicable Republican attacks that always seem to come from those who never can be found to serve in war, but love to attack those who did."



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20 comments:

Cato said...

Kerry sure does like screwing things up doesn't he.

Years ago, he called our boys rapists and murderers. Today he calls them idiots.

Bravo Kerry. Tell it like it is.

Ha, he really screwed up...

AndyRand said...

Right CATO:
Like the Chicken hawks can tout their success in Iraq by exponentially increasing the number of American Body bags.

mike hammered said...

Hey Cato, was it not President Bush who pranced around looking under couch cushions saying "no, no wmd's here" while on camera?
That was while our troops were dying trying to find those wmd's by the way.
I don't like the Kerry flub, but let us keep things in perspective.
Or are you guilty of doing the same thing here that you accused dems of doing by beating the foley scandal to death?

Cato said...

Well Bush didn't call them rapists, murderers nor idiots.

http://tinyurl.com/y55vcq

To be clear andy, I think the boys ought come home as soon as possible. That does not mean when the job is "finished" it means as soon as our troop transports can get them back to American soil. I don't care if Iraq becomes a "breeding ground" for terrorism we deal with that when it comes actually comes not the so-called threat of it, just as we should have dealt with this whole thing in the first place.

Cato said...

Am I doing the same thing? Well camille Pagdilla agreed with me that the whole Foley mess was out of control and actually hurt the Dems more than it helped. I make one comment that he really screwed up -- on some obsurce blog -- so I can't really be doing the same thing. Unlike the Foley thing I don't think this would blow up in the Republicans faces. It's a gift from one Skull and Bones member to another.

AndyRand said...

CATO:

You're right, you can't beat something to death in 12 hrs. with one comment on a blog.
I remember when we had the initial fireworks in Iraq. Was I glad to see Saddam gone you bet. But I said to an Air Force retiree at the time, "they better find those weapons or we're screwed". In the back of my mind I thought "This is just too easy". How many troops did we loose in the first couple weeks, less than a dozen. Where did the Iraqi army evaporate too? Now we know.
I'd prefer to see a U.S. victory in Iraq, but that opportunity has been squandered by Bush and Cheney partly to enrich Halliburton. I think it's too late. We need to find a way out.
Personally, I love seeing Kerry give it Bush and the Chicken Hawks. Non of them have ever been to war. Kerry has.

Cato said...

This buisness in Iraq is all just a show against the real threats against America, namely, the Chinese. But it doesn't matter, we hold Afganistan for all our purposes, something no superpower has accomplished (although many many many have tried). If we can hold on to that, well, get out your globe: it's the key to all of the Asian continent.

Iraq was a waste, we should just stop wasting American blood and American treasure on non-Americans. It doesn't even help us to stay. It may become a breeding ground for terrorists and extremists. I don't care. Deal with them when they come. Not now, we accomplished the mission in that Iraq no longer has any WMDs (/laugh). Time to come home.

AndyRand said...

Don't be too sure we're hanging on to Afghanistan? All this stuff is a lot more complicated than meets the eye.
About a month ago. Musharif was making deals with the tribal villages on the borderline (no pun intended) with Afghanistan. He basically paid them off to stop attacking Pakistani forces.
1. He paid them off with money form America.
2. Guess who has money owed to them from these village leaders?
You guessed it Al Queda. So our gov. is indirectly financing Al Queda.

GI Joe said...

Yo Cato:

What's up with the Chinese? Are the caito=commies going to kick are free-market asses in the global market place?

The Chinese have traditionally been a stay-at-home people who might donate arms and support to border problems that could cause them grief.

Give Me Sanity! said...

Cato, etc....

What office is Kerry running for this November? I live in Wisconsin and this isn't a Presidential election year and, if he is running in Massachuscetts, I can't vote for. Some I'm a little confused about what the fuss is.

Is it that a Democrat from the East Coast liberal hotbed of Boston said something stupid. I listened to Rush, Hannity and Ed Schultz today and it was all they talked about. Talk about a bunch of one-track minded choral directors preaching to their respective chiors.

There's loonies on my left, looniers on my right and I'm stuck in the middle with WRP and MRP. Talk about fucking idiots...

Fat Jon said...

If you FAILED to get that Kerry was speaking about the Boy George Misadministration, then you're an imbecile and the joke is about you. If you GOT it and you're pretending that it was about the troops, then you're a liar and the joke is STILL about you.

Radio Captive America said...

If I'm not mistaken, Lardass Limbaugh had a special meeting with the Shrub so he could follow the Rove marching orders on this. It's no accident they blabbed about Kerry all day. It takes the attention off everything their screwing up.

Cato said...

"give me sanity" - he is a prominent member of the party, nothing more, and he said the troops were stupid.

Fat joe, he said that people should get an education or else you'll "wind up stuck in iraq." Perhaps if he said something like "you'll get your country stuck in Iraq" I'd believe you but frankly Senator Kerry has a history of disparaging troops. The joke isn't on me, its on half-wits that believe the backpeddling. For example, even though I disagree with her very much Hillary Clinton is no idiot and said that Kerry ought apoligize and "What Senator Kerry said was inappropriate".

I'm begining to think though that this could help alot of Democrats: "See, we'll turn on members of our own party if they act like a docuhebag!"

Cato said...

The Chinese pose an enormous threat to the United States on many levels, but since we pose the same threat to them they will not act. But if they smell weakness, perhaps they may. So it's all just a show of strength. Afganistan is still the key to the region, and is why Empires have tried to secure it for hundreds of years.

GI Joe said...

Yo Cato:

Like what enmormous threats? Market power? Military power? Lending power? Prostituional power to lure away commerce from the US? Power to make the neo-con hegeomaniacs realize they might have to sit down and work with the rest of the world? Details soldier...

GI Joe said...

Cato:

I thought America was a free country. We should be able to say what we want, when we want and where we want. Check your Constitution. I personally prefer "patriots" like Kerry as opposed to those like McVeigh or Bush or Cheney.

Cato said...

Sure, say whatever the hell you want. It does not mean you are immune from criticism of others. Sure, he can say whatever he wants. But I can say whatever I want about him for really just taking his whole foot into his mouth.

The money we owe China, their economic share, their political leanings, their military might and sheer numbers are all threats. As they become more and more westernized this does diminish. However, if you remember we were a bit scared about the Russians for quite a while, and with good reason. But Russia lacked the economic ability to do much of anything to us, it was all their military (and its both real and imaginary threat (in that they did have nukes (very bad) but their technology was, shall we say... lacking)). China is much worse.

AndyRand said...

As you say CATO, the chinese hold an enormous segment of our debt. But this is a debt incurred by the Bush/Cheney team that chose to borrow and spend rather than tax and spend.
As to them being a threat. Abslolutely. All they have to do is call in what we owe them. I think what stops them is America as their largest consumer of junk. But that's changing. The are making deals with third world companies to build their cars in return for oil. Once they have other countries buying their junk watch out!

GI Joe said...

Cato:

In your history studies, do you have any examples of expansionist intentions by the Chinese? It sounds to me like you are afraid of their market power. That seems strange coming from you free-market, libertarian perspective.

Or are you suggesting we need to step back and evaluate our open trade policies with the likes of China.

Cato said...

GI Joe, we do not have free trade with China. I am not concerned with their market power in any way that you are suggesting, I am concerned with the amount of our debt they own. While yes... they should be able to buy it... NO we shouldn't be able to sell it (as in we shouldn't be in debt). They can bully us from multiple different angles, that's all I was saying. Whether or not I personally find an issue with it is immaterial to whether or not the government of this country does at this time.

Andy -- the debt is not all of Bush's doing. While it has increased recently, it's not like Clinton did jack shit to help. He projected future budget surpluses -- so what if he projected to not have a yearly deficit? That's not the debt. The debt has been there for a long, long time (and it was the Republicans in the 94 revolution that did it, not Clinton (of course, most of those Republicans have long quit and neocons have taken over))