8/23/2007

A Darker Shade Of Pale


7 comments:

Anonymous said...

George Wallace also said:

"In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever."*

* From his inaugural speech as Governor of Alabama, 1962.

And yes, I do believe he was a Democrat.

Sunny Badger said...

And I believe the current Republican base south of the Mason-Dixon line today is made up up the Dixiecrat Democrats of 40 years ago.

When LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 struck down Jim Crow, he said "We have lost the south for a generation."

So you are correct in pointing out that the Democrats of South were dominated by racists. And would I be wrong in point out that those southern Democrats quickly shifted to the Republican Party and make up a solid percentage of their base?

Anonymous said...

Sunny B.,

You would be correct if you said that some of the racist southern Democrats -- the most prominient being Strom Thrumond -- shifted to the Republican party, but I'm not sure why.

A greater percentage of Republicans (80%) voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 than did Democrates (68%). Why racist Democrats would be attracted to a party that was less anti-civil rights than the one they were already in is, well, baffling.

Maybe they just got more into the ideas of smaller government, lower taxes, and real, non-discriminatory equal opportunity.

Sunny Badger said...

What appealed to the white Southern rednecks, fundamental regious, homophobic voters who migrated to the Republican Party and eventual became its base was the anti-public school push from the Barry Goldwater conservatives. This was really the switch in the Republican Party. It was no longer the party of Eisenhower. Of course, Goldwater wasn't a fan of the religious right and was actually a founding member of Arizona's Planned Parenthood. However, other parts of the party platform sucked in the Dixiecrats. Also playing a part was the anti-war movement. The South tends to lean to pro-military and the 1960s were no exception.

Today's Republican can truthfully say their's is the Party of Lincoln. But in many ways it is only a party in name only. Ditto for the Democrats. They too have shifted around ideologically, but maybe less noticablely than the Republicans.

I find it interesting that today's anti-war correctly points out that Bush falsely led us into war in Iraq. I like to point out to them that Bush did what Johnson did in the Vietnam War. Many think Nixon got us into Vietnam. He's the one that got us out.

So this past week when Bush is saying the pulling out of Iraq will be a deadly mess like the pull out of Vietnam, he is slamming his own party. Republican Nixon led the withdrawal from Vietnam.

I like what Republican candate Ron Paul said recently about Bush and pulling out of Iraq. He said Bush lied to us about the war going into it and during it. Why should we believe the Bush Administration's pullout scenario.

PS: Everyone, with the exception of five or six nutjobs in every local Democratic Party, is in favor of lower taxes and smaller government.

Anonymous said...

Sunny B.,

Let's not leave the subject we started with, that is, whether its the Republicans or the Democrats with a legacy of virulent racism.

Here's another data point:

President Woodrow Wilson, in his book History of the American People, and as quoted in the film The Birth of a Nation, said:

"The white men were roused by a mere instinct of self-preservation ... until at last there had sprung into existence a great Ku Klux Klan, a veritable empire of the South, to protect the Southern country."

The Birth of a Nation, in case you never saw it (it’s a silent film from about 1915), glorified the Klan. The film was based on the book and play The Clansman and the book The Leopard’s Spots, both by Thomas Dixon. Dixon stated that his purpose was "to revolutionize northern sentiment by a presentation of history that would transform every man in my audience into a good Democrat!"

President Wilson, on seeing the film in a special White House screening in 1915 said:

"It is like writing history with lightning, and my only regret is that it is all so terribly true."

As president, President Wilson re-segregated the federal government for the first time since Reconstruction.

I believe Wilson was a Democrat, too.

Sunny Badger said...

Anon:

I don't think the racist tag is exclusive for the Democrats or the Republicans. I believe it blogs to the White man. Back in the 30s and 40s the KKK that was active in Western Wisconsin focused on the White Catholics -- especially the Irish. A large percentage of those Irish Catholics were Democrats.

For your file, here's a list of racist quotes with Democratic ties:

"You cannot go to a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian Accent."
-Senator Joe Biden


Mahatma Gandhi "ran a gas station down in Saint Louis."

-Senator Hillary Clinton


Some junior high n*gger kicked Steve's ass while he was trying to help his brothers out; junior high or sophomore in high school. Whatever it was, Steve had the n*gger down. However it was, it was Steve's fault. He had the n*gger down, he let him up. The n*gger blindsided him."

-- Roger Clinton, the President's brother on audiotape


"You'd find these potentates from down in Africa, you know, rather than eating each other, they'd just come up and get a good square meal in Geneva."
-- Fritz Hollings (D, S.C.)

"Is you their black-haired answer-mammy who be smart? Does they like how you shine their shoes, Condoleezza? Or the way you wash and park the whitey's cars?"

-- Left-wing radio host Neil Rogers

Blacks and Hispanics are "too busy eating watermelons and tacos" to learn how to read and write." -- Mike Wallace, CBS News. Source: Newsmax


Black on Black

"In the days of slavery, there were those slaves who lived on the plantation and [there] were those slaves that lived in the house. You got the privilege of living in the house if you served the master ... exactly the way the master intended to have you serve him. Colin Powell's committed to come into the house of the master. When Colin Powell dares to suggest something other than what the master wants to hear, he will be turned back out to pasture."
-- Harry Belafonte

"Republicans bring out Colin Powell and J.C. Watts because they have no program, no policy. They have no love and no joy. They'd rather take pictures with black children than feed them." -- Donna Brazile, Al Gore's Campaign Manager for the 2000 election

(On Clarence Thomas) "A handkerchief-head, chicken-and-biscuit-eating Uncle Tom." -- Spike Lee

"He's married to a white woman. He wants to be white. He wants a colorless society. He has no ethnic pride. He doesn't want to be black."

-- California State Senator Diane Watson's on Ward Connerly's interracial marriage

Comments From The Past

"Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds."

-- Former Klansman and current US Senator Robert Byrd, a man who is referred to by many Democrats as the "conscience of the Senate", in a letter written in 1944, after he quit the KKK.


"I am a former kleagle of the Ku Klux Klan in Raleigh County and the adjoining counties of the state .... The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia .... It is necessary that the order be promoted immediately and in every state of the Union. Will you please inform me as to the possibilities of rebuilding the Klan in the Realm of W. Va .... I hope that you will find it convenient to answer my letter in regards to future possibilities."

-- Former Klansman and current US Senator Robert Byrd, a man who is referred to by many Democrats as the "conscience of the Senate", in a letter written in 1946, after he quit the KKK.

"These laws [segregation] are still constitutional and I promise you that until they are removed from the ordinance books of Birmingham and the statute books of Alabama, they will be enforced in Birmingham to the utmost of my ability and by all lawful means."

-- Democrat Bull Connor (1957), Commissioner of Public Safety for Birmingham, Alabama


"I'll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years."

-- Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One according Ronald Kessler's Book, "Inside The White House"

(On New York) "K*ketown." -- Harry Truman in a personal letter


"I think one man is just as good as another so long as he's not a n*gger or a Chinaman. Uncle Will says that the Lord made a White man from dust, a nigger from mud, then He threw up what was left and it came down a Chinaman. He does hate Chinese and Japs. So do I. It is race prejudice, I guess. But I am strongly of the opinion Negroes ought to be in Africa, Yellow men in Asia and White men in Europe and America."

-Harry Truman (1911) in a letter to his future wife Bess


"There’s some people who’ve gone over the state and said, ‘Well, George Wallace has talked too strong about segregation.’ Now let me ask you this: how in the name of common sense can you be too strong about it? You’re either for it or you’re against it. There’s not any middle ground as I know of." -- Democratic Alabama Governor George Wallace (1959)

On Jews

"You f*cking Jew b@stard." -- Hillary Clinton to political operative Paul Fray. This was revealed in "State of a Union: Inside the Complex Marriage of Bill and Hillary Clinton" and has been verified by Paul Fray and three witnesses.

"The Jews don't like Farrakhan, so they call me Hitler. Well, that's a good name. Hitler was a very great man. He rose Germany up from the ashes." -- Louis Farrakhan (1984) who campaigned for congresswoman Cynthia McKinney in 2002

"Now that nation called Israel, never has had any peace in forty years and she will never have any peace because there can never be any peace structured on injustice, thievery, lying and deceit and using the name of God to shield your dirty religion under his holy and righteous name." -- Louis Farrakhan who campaigned for congresswoman Cynthia McKinney in 2002, 1984

'Hymies.' 'Hymietown.' -- Jesse Jackson's description of New York City while on the 1984 presidential campaign trail.

"Jews — that's J-E-W-S." -- Democratic state representative Bill McKinney on why his daughter Cynthia lost in 2002


On Whites

"I want to go up to the closest white person and say: 'You can't understand this, it's a black thing' and then slap him, just for my mental health."

-- Charles Barron, a New York city councilman at a reparations rally, 2002


"Civil rights laws were not passed to protect the rights of white men and do not apply to them." -- Mary Frances Berry, Chairwoman, US Commission on Civil Rights


(I) "will not let the white boys win in this election."
-- Donna Brazile, Al Gore's Campaign Manager on the 2000 election

"The old white boys got taken fair and square." -- San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown after winning an election

"There are white n*ggers. I've seen a lot of white n*ggers in my time." -- Former Klansman and Current US Senator Robert Byrd, a man who is referred to by many Democrats as the "conscience of the Senate" in March of 2001

"The Medicaid system must have been developed by a white male slave owner. It pays for you to be pregnant and have a baby, but it won't pay for much family planning." -- Jocelyn Elders

The white man is our mortal enemy, and we cannot accept him. I will fight to see that vicious beast go down into the lake of fire prepared for him from the beginning, that he never rise again to give any innocent black man, woman or child the hell that he has delighted in pouring on us for 400 years." -- Louis Farrakhan who campaigned for congresswoman Cynthia McKinney in 2002, City College audience in New York

"There's no great, white bigot; there's just about 200 million little white bigots out there." -- USA Today columnist Julienne Malveaux

"We have lost to the white racist press and to the racist reactionary Jewish misleaders." -- Former Rep. Gus Savage (D-Illinois) after his defeat 1992

"White folks was in caves while we was building empires... We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it." -- Rev. Al Sharpton in a 1994 speech at Kean College, NJ, cited in "Democrats Do the Dumbest Things

"The white race is the cancer of human history." -- Susan Sontag

"Reparations are a really good way for white people to admit they're wrong." -- Zack Webb, University Of Kentucky NAACP

this came from Hip Hop Republican at:

http://hiphoprepublican.com/2006/08/top-racist-democrat-quotes_30.html

Personally, I don't give a shit if a racist is Republican, Democrat or Independent. A racist is a racist. Some of my best friends are racists. Likewise, some of my best friends are Republicans.

Sunny Badger said...

Here's are interesting quote by Reagan. I certainly wouldn't classify Reagan as a racist. He always struck me as a pretty good guy. I definately don't think he was one of the best presidents every...

"“The glory of this land has been its capacity for transcending the moral evils of our past. For example, the long struggle of minority citizens for equal rights, once a source of disunity and civil war, is now a point of pride for all Americans. We must never go back. There is no room for racism, anti-Semitism, or other forms of ethnic and racial hatred in this country.”

In fact, Reagan sounds sort of like Hubert Humphrey:

“We should have learnt by now that laws and court decisions can only point the way. They can establish criteria of right and wrong. And they can provide a basis for rooting out the evils of bigotry and racism. But they cannot wipe away centuries of oppression and injustice / however much we might desire it.”