9/29/2010

at 9/29/2010 Posted by Sunny Badger

9 comments:

daniel noe said...

What if the Republicans immigrate?

September 30, 2010
Twoshay said...

I think we'd have to make sure they could work long, hard hours at wages less then minimum wage with no health care benefits, etc. We could possibly place them in homes as servants working from big name politicians.

Republicans are all descendants for immigrants. They just lack the empathy gene.

September 30, 2010
Roadkill said...

That's pretty much what's been happening in California over the past 20 years. There are consequences, of course...

"[T]he state that was once held up as the epitome of the boundless opportunities of America has collapsed. From its politics to its economy to its environment and way of life, California is like a patient on life support. At the start of summer the state government was so deeply in debt that it began to issue IOUs instead of wages. Its unemployment rate has soared to more than 12%, the highest figure in 70 years."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/01/california-failing-state-debt

When the tax-eaters (politicians, public sector employees, illegal immigrants) outnuber private sector employers and other tax-payers, the result is not hard to predict. Unless you are blinded by ideology and class warfare.

October 01, 2010
daniel noe said...

Yes Twoshay, that's right. Immigrants sneak in, have descendants, become Republicans, and never develop empathy. That was my point, and that's why the flow of immigration has to be kept to manageable levels. This is why illegal immigration has to be stopped.

October 01, 2010
Roadkill said...

Even worse than becoming Republicans, Daniel, is that the willingness of illegal immigrants to work for low pay tends to depress wages for legal US citizens/working class Americans. As such, curbing illegal immigration should an area of common ground across the politial spectrum.

October 01, 2010
Sunny Badger said...

Daniel, "immigrants sneak in"? I work with all kinds of immigrants who didn't sneak in. Many came from India and China and are working in IT jobs. Apparently you have a narrow view of immigrants. Arnold Schwarzenegger, Arianna Huffington and Madeleine Albright are immigrants.

I don't think Roadkill is serious about stopping immigrants will lead to higher wages. Since 60 percent of the farm labor in the US is immigrants (40 percent illegal), I don't think you are going to find wages skyrocketing for those who pick beans. Besides, we already have a government welfare program call subsidies.

Have you noticed the TEA Party seems to leave the rich welfare farmers alone?

October 02, 2010
daniel noe said...

The reason I said that immigrants sneak in is because I was talking about the ones that sneak in, not the ones that don't sneak in. It is important to catch them so we can keep their numbers manageable. SOME immigrants are okay - even a good thing, but not too many.

October 08, 2010
Sunny Badger said...

Daniel:

Do you think we should give amnesty to the illegals currently in the country? Or should we send them all back south, seal the border and make sure everyone coming in has the proper paperwork?

October 09, 2010
daniel noe said...

It would be impractical and expensive to round up all these people and deport them, not to mention that some came as children decades ago and have full lives here.

That said, I would like to see more effort put into keeping them out in the first place.

October 28, 2010

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