Von Mises Institute admits; "At this point our critics are convinced. They are convinced that we are all crackpots."
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I find it intersting that you think that people who espouse the principles of a truly free society and free markets are crackpots; all the while espousing the ideas of communism as some moral organization of society. Even though communist ideology has killed millions upon millions and starved millions more.
Socialism will once again get a test in New Richmond where a mass theft of wealth will take place. In five or so years we will see who is right. I bet New Richmond will make East Germany look like paradise!
You seem to be confused about what gets post here. The quote was taken from an article by Mark Thorton titled "Financing the Empire." It is posted on the Von Mises web stie at the following link: http://www.mises.org/story/2369
I would say democracy will get a test in New Richmond. That's the system were we hold an election and people go to their local polls and vote yea or nay. Hasn't East Germany turned into a hot beb of capitalism since the Soviet yoke was thrown off?
My guess is that is five or six years New Richmond will look much the same on the north side of town and a lot different on the south side of town. In additon to the schools you will see other businesses that have filled in in the Wal-Mart neighborhood. In the resdiential area west of Wal-mart you will see many more houses, as development pushes to the sourth. Hell, I'll even bet you the turkey farms will be gone and housing developments will be taking their place.
As I type this, there houses being build south of New Richmond. I counted four last night between Boardman and Hwy 65.
It will be what it will be. Time will tell and we can only speculate.
Get a grip on reality! Nobody here espouses Communism. What you and your team of crackpots consider Communist is in reality a centrist view shared by the majority of Americans. By your definition Richard Nixon, famous for his anti Communist stands, would be a Communist. It's statements like the one above that make it so much fun to mock your ridiculous ideas. Keep it up. Give us for fodder.
It is always interesting to see how an ideological propagandist like yourself works. You come off as a slave to a paint-by-number way of thing. Keep it between the lines and attack those who can paint their own pictures.
I checked out your link: http://www.mises.org/books/reader.pdf. Would a gain more insights into economics if I read this? With a degree in economics and graduate studies in economics, what would I gain from reading this book? Fundamental economics is fundamental economics is it not.
"Communism" and "community" share the same root. "Communism" has negative connotations and negativity is a big part of your failed approach to gaining converts to your ideology.
Wisconsin Dells and Sparta passed referendums last Tuesday. Evidently, they have embraced socialism. Evidently, the socialist conspiracy is spreading across the state...Hudson passed a referendum last December.
You evidently have a hard time dealing with the idea that people can embrace a variety of ideas and incorporate them into their daily thinking. For example, Bob Ziller, a solid, conservative Republican backed the New Richmond school referendum. Has Bob embraced communism? Or does Bob understand the needs of the community?
You live in North Hudson. What do you know about New Richmond -- other than that voting "YES" for a public school referendum violates your ideological worldview?
You were a big supporter of George W. Bush. By the time he has done dumping out the barrels of red ink, the deficit will be the largest ever. $30,000 for every man, woman and children in the US... That smacks me as hyper-socialism and you voted for him and worked to get him elected. How do you think that deficit will be worked down? Magic? A tax increase? Grow the economy?
Do I detect a hypocritical rat nesting in your myopic ideological focus?
I would say my "philosophical bent" is pragmatic. I see the importance of a market economy...but not an unregulated free market economy. I also see the need for political intervention into the market...that would be the regualtion part of my pragmatic view. Quite honestly, I never heard of von Mises or Hayek in my undergraduate and graduate studies of economics.
A mathematician, an accountant and an economist apply for the same job.
The interviewer calls in the mathematician and asks "What do two plus two equal?" The mathemetician replies "Four." The interviewer asks "Four, exactly?" The mathematician looks at the interviewer incredulously and says "Yes, four, exactly."
Then the interviewer calls in the accountant and asks the same question "What do two plus two equal?" The accountant says "On average, four - give or take ten percent, but on average, four."
Then the interviewer calls in the economist and poses the same question "What do two plus two equal?" The economist gets up, locks the door, closes the shade, sits down next to the interviewer and says "What do you want it to equal?"
Q: How many conservative economists does it take to change a light bulb? A1: None. The darkness will cause the light bulb to change by itself. A2: None. If it really needed changing, market forces would have caused it to happen. A3: None. If the government would just leave it alone, it would screw itself in.
Maybe that's why pure Austrian economics hasn't caught on anywhere. Even Milton Friedman had pragmatic viens in his body of thought. It's always interesting to see how those who are chained to an ideology are so welded to one rock in the stream of ideas.
On PBS's American Experience last night, the program was about Jim Jones and Jonestown. You can some of the shades of the hardwired ideology displayed in local hyper-conservative fanatics that Jim Jones displayed. Look how they've treated Bob Ziller when he decided to spit out the OTBL Kool-aid and support the NR schools referendum. Jones also called those who dared to changed their minds traitors to the cause.
Come to think of it, that's where the phrase "drank the Kool Aid" came from.
The Kool Aide Drinkers ontheborderline can only point out the faults of others. E.G. "All taxation is theft", therefore all teachers are thieves. But they don't seem to have a problem driving on the government roads to the post office to ship items for their free market enterprise.
Common Sense is not a Kool Aide ingredient ontheborderline.
Teachers! What about firemen, policemen, paramedics, military personnel? They all work for the government. Or is it situational theivery -- depending on whether or not the OTBL'ers are taking their proper medication?
There'll be war, there'll be peace.But everything one day will cease.All the iron turned to rust;All the proud men turned to dust.And so all things, time will mend.So this song will end.
--Pink Floyd
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I find it intersting that you think that people who espouse the principles of a truly free society and free markets are crackpots; all the while espousing the ideas of communism as some moral organization of society. Even though communist ideology has killed millions upon millions and starved millions more.
Socialism will once again get a test in New Richmond where a mass theft of wealth will take place. In five or so years we will see who is right. I bet New Richmond will make East Germany look like paradise!
Here is a refresher course
http://www.mises.org/books/reader.pdf
"I bet New Richmond will make East Germany look like paradise!"
Then you wonder why we think you guys
are crackpots???
I rest my case.
Anonymous:
You seem to be confused about what gets post here. The quote was taken from an article by Mark Thorton titled "Financing the Empire." It is posted on the Von Mises web stie at the following link: http://www.mises.org/story/2369
I would say democracy will get a test in New Richmond. That's the system were we hold an election and people go to their local polls and vote yea or nay. Hasn't East Germany turned into a hot beb of capitalism since the Soviet yoke was thrown off?
My guess is that is five or six years New Richmond will look much the same on the north side of town and a lot different on the south side of town. In additon to the schools you will see other businesses that have filled in in the Wal-Mart neighborhood. In the resdiential area west of Wal-mart you will see many more houses, as development pushes to the sourth. Hell, I'll even bet you the turkey farms will be gone and housing developments will be taking their place.
As I type this, there houses being build south of New Richmond. I counted four last night between Boardman and Hwy 65.
It will be what it will be. Time will tell and we can only speculate.
anonymous...
Get a grip on reality! Nobody here espouses Communism. What you and your team of crackpots consider
Communist is in reality a centrist view shared by the majority of Americans. By your definition Richard Nixon, famous for his anti Communist stands, would be a Communist.
It's statements like the one above that make it so much fun to mock your ridiculous ideas. Keep it up. Give us for fodder.
Anon:
It is always interesting to see how an ideological propagandist like yourself works. You come off as a slave to a paint-by-number way of thing. Keep it between the lines and attack those who can paint their own pictures.
I checked out your link: http://www.mises.org/books/reader.pdf. Would a gain more insights into economics if I read this? With a degree in economics and graduate studies in economics, what would I gain from reading this book? Fundamental economics is fundamental economics is it not.
"Communism" and "community" share the same root. "Communism" has negative connotations and negativity is a big part of your failed approach to gaining converts to your ideology.
Wisconsin Dells and Sparta passed referendums last Tuesday. Evidently, they have embraced socialism. Evidently, the socialist conspiracy is spreading across the state...Hudson passed a referendum last December.
You evidently have a hard time dealing with the idea that people can embrace a variety of ideas and incorporate them into their daily thinking. For example, Bob Ziller, a solid, conservative Republican backed the New Richmond school referendum. Has Bob embraced communism? Or does Bob understand the needs of the community?
You live in North Hudson. What do you know about New Richmond -- other than that voting "YES" for a public school referendum violates your ideological worldview?
You were a big supporter of George W. Bush. By the time he has done dumping out the barrels of red ink, the deficit will be the largest ever. $30,000 for every man, woman and children in the US... That smacks me as hyper-socialism and you voted for him and worked to get him elected. How do you think that deficit will be worked down? Magic? A tax increase? Grow the economy?
Do I detect a hypocritical rat nesting in your myopic ideological focus?
So JPN, is your philosophical bent on economics Keynesian, Chicago School, Austrian, or other?
I would say my "philosophical bent" is pragmatic. I see the importance of a market economy...but not an unregulated free market economy. I also see the need for political intervention into the market...that would be the regualtion part of my pragmatic view. Quite honestly, I never heard of von Mises or Hayek in my undergraduate and graduate studies of economics.
A mathematician, an accountant and an economist apply for the same job.
The interviewer calls in the mathematician and asks "What do two plus two equal?" The mathemetician replies "Four." The interviewer asks "Four, exactly?" The mathematician looks at the interviewer incredulously and says "Yes, four, exactly."
Then the interviewer calls in the accountant and asks the same question "What do two plus two equal?" The accountant says "On average, four - give or take ten percent, but on average, four."
Then the interviewer calls in the economist and poses the same question "What do two plus two equal?" The economist gets up, locks the door, closes the shade, sits down next to the interviewer and says "What do you want it to equal?"
Q:Why did God create economists?
A:In order to make weather forecasters look good.
And I heard that they took all the economists in the world and lined them up end-to-end and they pointed in every direction.
Q: How many conservative economists does it take to change a light bulb?
A1: None. The darkness will cause the light bulb to change by itself.
A2: None. If it really needed changing, market forces would have caused it to happen.
A3: None. If the government would just leave it alone, it would screw itself in.
JPN said,
I would say my "philosophical bent" is pragmatic. I see the importance of a market economy...but not an unregulated free market economy."
Geeze JPN, This sound down right.....
American!
Flea:
Maybe that's why pure Austrian economics hasn't caught on anywhere. Even Milton Friedman had pragmatic viens in his body of thought. It's always interesting to see how those who are chained to an ideology are so welded to one rock in the stream of ideas.
On PBS's American Experience last night, the program was about Jim Jones and Jonestown. You can some of the shades of the hardwired ideology displayed in local hyper-conservative fanatics that Jim Jones displayed. Look how they've treated Bob Ziller when he decided to spit out the OTBL Kool-aid and support the NR schools referendum. Jones also called those who dared to changed their minds traitors to the cause.
Come to think of it, that's where the phrase "drank the Kool Aid" came from.
JPN,
The Kool Aide Drinkers ontheborderline can only point out the faults of others.
E.G. "All taxation is theft", therefore all teachers are thieves. But they don't seem to have a problem driving on the government roads to the post office to ship items for their free market enterprise.
Common Sense is not a Kool Aide ingredient ontheborderline.
Teachers! What about firemen, policemen, paramedics, military personnel? They all work for the government. Or is it situational theivery -- depending on whether or not the OTBL'ers are taking their proper medication?
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